Comments on: What are the two sorts of Cloud infrastructure called? http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/ Relentless user-focus on civic websites Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Pether Sorling http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-112759 Pether Sorling Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:55:13 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-112759 Can recommend Amazon, use it together with the excellent firefox plugin ElasticFox http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=609 . Really cool & easy way to provision servers. Will produce public ami:s for the CIA project later on. Pether Can recommend Amazon, use it together with the excellent firefox plugin ElasticFox http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=609 . Really cool & easy way to provision servers.

Will produce public ami:s for the CIA project later on.

Pether

]]> By: Francis Irving http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-112105 Francis Irving Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:28:50 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-112105 The people at Cloud Camp had three layers, and this is the terminology I'm going to use. IaaS (infrastructure as a service) - which is the virtual machine layer, and also simpler storage things like S3. PaaS (platform as a service) - which is developer APIs (that scale themselves), and aggregates of APIs. So Google App Engine, Amazon Simple Queue Service, Force.com etc. SaaS (software as a service) - end user applications, so SalesForce, GMail etc. So to summarise - I'd like to just use PaaS, perferably with the software all being open source as well. But unfortunately PaaS is the weakest area right now across the industry, so we're going to have to implement a few things ourselves using the lower level IaaS level. The people at Cloud Camp had three layers, and this is the terminology I’m going to use.

IaaS (infrastructure as a service) – which is the virtual machine layer, and also simpler storage things like S3.

PaaS (platform as a service) – which is developer APIs (that scale themselves), and aggregates of APIs. So Google App Engine, Amazon Simple Queue Service, Force.com etc.

SaaS (software as a service) – end user applications, so SalesForce, GMail etc.

So to summarise – I’d like to just use PaaS, perferably with the software all being open source as well. But unfortunately PaaS is the weakest area right now across the industry, so we’re going to have to implement a few things ourselves using the lower level IaaS level.

]]> By: Ian Eiloart http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-112071 Ian Eiloart Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:17:57 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-112071 HSP is defined as "hosting service provider" by virtuozzo, who operate in the field. And, "SP" is commonly used for Service Provider (ISP, EmailSP, etc). HSP is defined as “hosting service provider” by virtuozzo, who operate in the field. And, “SP” is commonly used for Service Provider (ISP, EmailSP, etc).

]]> By: Francis Irving http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-111758 Francis Irving Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:18:53 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-111758 My "Cloud VSP/HSP" seems to be called "Infrastructure as a Service (Iaas)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_as_a_service, or "Cloud Infrastructure" http://samj.net/2008/09/taxonomy-6-layer-cloud-computing-stack.html My “Cloud VSP/HSP” seems to be called “Infrastructure as a Service (Iaas)” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_as_a_service, or “Cloud Infrastructure” http://samj.net/2008/09/taxonomy-6-layer-cloud-computing-stack.html

]]> By: Francis Irving http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-111619 Francis Irving Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:32:48 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-111619 A friend says "I have no idea, but these words need to be invented if they do not already exist, and I prefer VSP to HSP, and DSP needs too be a different acronym from Digital Signal Processing, such as API." A friend says “I have no idea, but these words need to be invented if they do not already exist, and I prefer VSP to HSP, and DSP needs too be a different acronym from Digital Signal Processing, such as API.”

]]> By: Keith Harris http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-111613 Keith Harris Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:00:56 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-111613 HSP: "Stratus" and DSP: "Cumulus" ;-) HSP: “Stratus” and DSP: “Cumulus” ;-)

]]> By: Francis Irving http://www.mysociety.org/2009/09/22/what-are-the-two-sorts-of-cloud-infrastructure-called/comment-page-1/#comment-111538 Francis Irving Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:46:21 +0000 http://www.mysociety.org/?p=3092#comment-111538 Maybe Cloud VSP ("virtual server provision") instead of HSP? Maybe Cloud VSP (“virtual server provision”) instead of HSP?

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