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	<title>Comments on: mySociety and Democracy Essay Pt. 1</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Skelton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Skelton</dc:creator>
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		<description>Very interesting. In the interests of democracy I wonder if the government (current) sees it the way you do. Perhaps I&#039;m being overly cynical however the multitude of decisions that happen in between elections at least currently, appears to be covertly and in some cases overtly controlled by our elected majority. I wonder if that happens because of or in spite of the tacit compliance of the institutions filling the gap. The effect seems to be that we don&#039;t quite live in the democracy that we think we do. And as such I think MySociety is probably doing a tremendous job relatively speaking - you should be much better publicised. All the best.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. In the interests of democracy I wonder if the government (current) sees it the way you do. Perhaps I&#8217;m being overly cynical however the multitude of decisions that happen in between elections at least currently, appears to be covertly and in some cases overtly controlled by our elected majority. I wonder if that happens because of or in spite of the tacit compliance of the institutions filling the gap. The effect seems to be that we don&#8217;t quite live in the democracy that we think we do. And as such I think MySociety is probably doing a tremendous job relatively speaking &#8211; you should be much better publicised. All the best.<br />
J.</p>
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		<title>By: Eoin Dubsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eoin Dubsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to Pt. 2!! I love the work that you do, and often when I see an internet project proposal doing the rounds at work I see comments like &quot;like PledgeBank&quot; or &quot;like [insert mySociety project name here]&quot;! :-)

I suppose your focus for the moment is the government, MPs and Lords. But I wonder whether (if you could clone yourselves perhaps?!) you might work on the role of the media too, and consider building tools to help citizen media monitoring and campaigning?

In your essay above you wrote: &quot;The institutions that shape our democratic culture often act as some of the hardest checks and balances against which politicians bang their heads. Just speak to a politician who has ever been foiled by a concerted media campaign to understand the power of democratic culture.&quot;

...I suppose you may mean the positive examples of citizen-supported media campaigns against corrupt politicians. But what about the times when the media are as bad if not worse than the politicians. MediaLens ( http://www.medialens.org/ ) and the Glasgow Media Group have done some great research in this area on UK media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to Pt. 2!! I love the work that you do, and often when I see an internet project proposal doing the rounds at work I see comments like &#8220;like PledgeBank&#8221; or &#8220;like [insert mySociety project name here]&#8220;! :-)</p>
<p>I suppose your focus for the moment is the government, MPs and Lords. But I wonder whether (if you could clone yourselves perhaps?!) you might work on the role of the media too, and consider building tools to help citizen media monitoring and campaigning?</p>
<p>In your essay above you wrote: &#8220;The institutions that shape our democratic culture often act as some of the hardest checks and balances against which politicians bang their heads. Just speak to a politician who has ever been foiled by a concerted media campaign to understand the power of democratic culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;I suppose you may mean the positive examples of citizen-supported media campaigns against corrupt politicians. But what about the times when the media are as bad if not worse than the politicians. MediaLens ( <a href="http://www.medialens.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.medialens.org/</a> ) and the Glasgow Media Group have done some great research in this area on UK media.</p>
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		<title>By: James Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent essay Tom - thank you, I really enjoyed reading it.

&quot;Helping people to get better decisions made between elections&quot; seems a really clear way to explain our aims. I do worry sometimes though about what &quot;better&quot; means. Is it just whatever &quot;better&quot; means to the person using our tools, or do we taint it with our conscious or subconscious values in some way. How would we know and guard against that?

I also worry sometimes about the power that institutions hold, not because I have any particular feeling that any specific ones are bad, but just because I&#039;m the kind of person who believes in safety features being built in. Sometimes institutions are listened to because they have an explicit mandate, sometimes because they have a lot of members or supporters, sometimes just because they&#039;re perceived to be talking sense.

It would feel better (less dangerous) to me if that could be quantified in some way, perhaps so that politicians knew that they weren&#039;t being misled. I know the idea of a TheyWorkForYou for NGOs has been discussed a few times both in and outside our team, there&#039;s something in that I think.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent essay Tom &#8211; thank you, I really enjoyed reading it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Helping people to get better decisions made between elections&#8221; seems a really clear way to explain our aims. I do worry sometimes though about what &#8220;better&#8221; means. Is it just whatever &#8220;better&#8221; means to the person using our tools, or do we taint it with our conscious or subconscious values in some way. How would we know and guard against that?</p>
<p>I also worry sometimes about the power that institutions hold, not because I have any particular feeling that any specific ones are bad, but just because I&#8217;m the kind of person who believes in safety features being built in. Sometimes institutions are listened to because they have an explicit mandate, sometimes because they have a lot of members or supporters, sometimes just because they&#8217;re perceived to be talking sense.</p>
<p>It would feel better (less dangerous) to me if that could be quantified in some way, perhaps so that politicians knew that they weren&#8217;t being misled. I know the idea of a TheyWorkForYou for NGOs has been discussed a few times both in and outside our team, there&#8217;s something in that I think.</p>
<p>Looking forward to Pt. 2!</p>
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