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5 Responses to “Travel-Time maps: Pretty and useful”
There are various reasons why Google maps, whilst excellent, are not the solution here:
1) It doesn’t solve the need for licenced postcode data from the OS, or for the NAPTAN database of where all the bus stops and train stations are.
2) If we use Google maps under licence, then we can only show them through the standard UI. Doing stuff like putting them in
presentations is out, as is simply putting up large static pngs or gifs of the kind that you’ll see if you click on the images on the page Chris put up.
Lastly, this was a piece of commissioned work, and Googles Ts&Cs rule out using their stuff for paid work (even if we are based on a charity).
In order for us to be able to sell this map, we’d have to work out commercial terms for the various datasets required to make the maps.
Even if that didn’t price the maps out of reasonable cost range, the simple amount of effort and consequent expense of us spending ages trying to make sense of the licencing system and obtaining everything in order to be able to sell a single copy puts presents a big barrier. However, if you’d like to volunteer to work out the price of providing this map in a fully licenced form, we’d love to see what you come up with.
I know we (the UK tax payer) have already paid through the nose for the OS data, but we still aren’t allowed to use it. OpenStreetMap’s data is far more accessible, and surprisingly more frequently updated than the OS’s data.
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May 27th, 2006 at 6:21pm
Just wondering if the london map would be available for sale???
BW
May 29th, 2006 at 3:05am
How about using google MAP instead of ordinace surveys rather expensive maps (Hey did’nt we pay for those already?)
May 30th, 2006 at 11:37am
There are various reasons why Google maps, whilst excellent, are not the solution here:
1) It doesn’t solve the need for licenced postcode data from the OS, or for the NAPTAN database of where all the bus stops and train stations are.
2) If we use Google maps under licence, then we can only show them through the standard UI. Doing stuff like putting them in
presentations is out, as is simply putting up large static pngs or gifs of the kind that you’ll see if you click on the images on the page Chris put up.
Lastly, this was a piece of commissioned work, and Googles Ts&Cs rule out using their stuff for paid work (even if we are based on a charity).
May 30th, 2006 at 11:41am
Brian,
In order for us to be able to sell this map, we’d have to work out commercial terms for the various datasets required to make the maps.
Even if that didn’t price the maps out of reasonable cost range, the simple amount of effort and consequent expense of us spending ages trying to make sense of the licencing system and obtaining everything in order to be able to sell a single copy puts presents a big barrier. However, if you’d like to volunteer to work out the price of providing this map in a fully licenced form, we’d love to see what you come up with.
May 31st, 2006 at 9:01pm
Dare I mention OpenStreetMap.org?
I know we (the UK tax payer) have already paid through the nose for the OS data, but we still aren’t allowed to use it. OpenStreetMap’s data is far more accessible, and surprisingly more frequently updated than the OS’s data.